Lee Jasper was
the ring leader of a rag bag of self-styled anti-fascist campaigners who were
hounding English National Ballet prima ballerina Simone Clarke on Friday.
The protest happened on a Friday afternoon so I guess Jasper, who is the London
Mayor's extremely highly paid director for equalities and policing, must have
been doing it in work time. At least
most of the rest of us were at work on Friday afternoon. He was
interviewed by Andrew Bomford (approx 16 min in) on behalf of BBC Radio 4's Broadcasting House
which went out on Sunday morning. Here is the interview and my
observations.
Lee
Jasper (introducing himself):
"Lee Jasper, secretary of the National
Assembly Against Racism and advisor to the mayor Ken Livingstone."
It seems that Jasper does not understand basic concepts like
conflict of interest. Is Jasper a local government officer or an
activist? He seems to want to have his cake and eat it. His
organisation received £50K from the Mayor in 2004/5 and £60K a year for
three years from 2005/6 to 2008/9. Meanwhile Jasper has received a salary from the GLA for
many years.
Andrew
Bomford: "We would know nothing
about her political views if it wasn't for that Guardian article which
outed her in the first place. So yes, she talked to the Daily Mail, but presumably
they approached her and asked her the questions."
Bomford quite reasonably
points out that she has not thrust herself
into the media spotlight.
LJ: "Well, it's morally reprehensible for a modern
multicultural society like London. It's vital that we defend
multiculturalism. And the air of democracy doesn't extend to people who
have racist and fascist views."
Jasper splutters incoherently. We are not sure
what it is that is morally reprehensible. I suspect that if he spelt it out it wouldn't sound
that bad really. The consensus around multiculturalism has been massively rolled back over 2006 and only a few
people who depend on the idea for their income are defending it anymore. I think Jasper will find that the
surest cure for racism and fascism is the
"air of democracy" or more accurately perhaps
free speech. Jasper's view
seems to be that anyone who questions mass immigration is a racist and fascist
and should be gagged. For him multiculturalism is king even if people
don't want it.
AB: "Do you think that it's
wrong for people in her sort of position, public positions, to hold any
sort of extreme views? What about on
the left wing for example? You know,
would it be wrong to support organisations like Herri Batasuna or Hamas or Hezbollah and have the kind of position which she
holds?"
Bomford now goes
off piste and draws a moral equivalence between a legally constituted, if simple minded, British
political party that makes no overt threats of violence to anyone and three organisation that are
either officially proscribed terrorist
organisations and illegal in Britain or act as mouthpieces for such
organisations. It seems if you are
left wing you are bad if you actually kill people but if you are right wing you
are bad if you just say stuff.
LJ: "Can you imagine the furore if she
was a member of some proscribed, so-called Muslim extremist organisation?
We would never hear the last of it. I think it is not
different for the extreme right. We have a
ballerina who has declared her view, knows and understands that the
party is considered racist, and is
still positively advocating for
them. She is in the public domain. She's paid by the public
purse. Simply not good enough.
Jasper endorses the moral equivalence and then distorts
Clarke's views, effectively calling her a racist. Jasper cannot work out that it is
inappropriate for he himself to be "paid by the public purse" and to go around
harassing people at their place of work with loud-hailers.
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